I'm still confused. (Nothing new, really!) If NTBackup is not included with Cougar, how does one do disk-based backup without any backup software? Is it just putting COPY or XCOPY in a .cmd file, or is there another trick I'm unaware of? Our data is outgrowing our tape drive, and since it seems I will eventually have to move away from tape, maybe now is the time. But I need a little more information about how.

 

(I think I asked this question before, but never got a good answer. Most of the answers were suggestions to acquire expensive backup software to use with the tape drive.)

 

Thanks,

Dave

Dave,

 

You better wait until it is released. There is really no point in guessing what it will be. Those who are involved in beta testing Cougar should very well know that you are NOT allowed to discuss any details of Cougar in a public forum like this one. If you do you risk to get kicked out of the beta program and worse....

 

Anyone who posts restricted information about Cougar on this forum will be banned by me for live on this site. I will not tolerate any illegal information posted here.

 

Questions?

Actually, the question I asked had nothing to do with Cougar itself, it was just brought up by the discussion of NTBackup being dropped in Cougar.

 

The question was, How do I do a disk-based backup (or any backup as far as that goes) without backup software?

 

Thanks,

Dave

Dave,

 

I don't understand the question I think. Well, a backup without NTBackup on SBS 2003 can be done with 3rd party solutions like Backup Exec. How this is handled in the next version of SBS is a different issue.

 

Does that answered your question?

Mariëtte,

 

Maybe we're just not understanding each other. Some of the discussions I've seen on here seemed to be about using disk-based backup INSTEAD OF buying the third party software, which would seem to imply that the third party software is not needed for disk backups. Am I just misunderstanding that concept, or is there a way?

 

Thanks,

Dave

Dave,

 

OK, so your question is if you can make disk based backups with NTBackup? If that is the question then the answer is yes. You can use NTBackup (SBS Backup) to backup to any disk wether it is IDE, SATA, USB or eSATA.

Mariette,

 

Yes, I understand NTBackup will backup to disk, what I am wondering is, if I move in that direction now, then Cougar drops NTBackup, can I then do the backup without NTBackup? And if so, how? Would it be something as basic as putting XCOPY in a .cmd file? Or will Cougar support disk backups in some other way that NTBackup? (If you can say.)

 

Thanks,

Dave

Eric,

 

Yes, thanks, that helps a lot. That is th einfo I have been looking for. So there will still be some sort of backup utility, it just won't support tape drives anymore.

 

Thanks,

Dave

Dave,

I am sure we are not allowed to delve too deeply into what the new product contains, as we had to sign NDA's although as Eric says, because its based on Windows 2008 it should be the same in terms of backup.  I installed Cougar today for the first time and its awesome.

 

Probably this decade...