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8/26/2008 12:25 PM  
Does anyone know of some easy to use software i can install onto a sbs 2003 box to provide make a VPN sever but not using the standard VPN port?
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8/26/2008 02:01 PM  
Hi Garry,
 
Can you elaborate please? What is wrong with SBS being the VPN server and which port would you want to use and why?

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8/26/2008 02:12 PM  
I currently use a draytek VPN router for support connection to my server to allow for HP ILO and would like to use another VPN service for clients to access the server but the draytek uses the 1723 port unless there is away to use the SBS VPN service on a different port number.
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8/26/2008 03:36 PM  
Hi Garry,
 
I don't think you can use another port for the VPN service. Is it really necessary for users to use vpn to the network?

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8/26/2008 03:52 PM  
I would take the hardware approach....have your router/firewall/vpn appliance handle the job.  Less load and problems for your server when you use a dedicated hardware device.
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8/26/2008 04:01 PM  
What load would vpn cause on a server?? And if the SBS has two nics, it doesn't make much sense to have the router do the vpn serving at all. If Garry still wants to be able to use vpn for his support (although I personally would never do that as it is way too slow) and have users vpn-ing into the network, he can choose to use another vpn protocol like ipsec for his needs, and let the users use the PPTP.

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8/26/2008 06:03 PM  
Hi thanks for your idea I will try it later and see what happens.
The VPN support is just so i can keep the HP ILO on a seperate network and still have access to the server for reboots ect... Most support is done via log me in or terminal serices.
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8/28/2008 09:58 AM  
Posted By Garry Pickett on 8/26/2008 12:25 PM
Does anyone know of some easy to use software i can install onto a sbs 2003 box to provide make a VPN sever but not using the standard VPN port?
I'e been experimenting with OpenVPN and Tinc- both stem from a Linux environment. Both of them could work fine, but I found configuring them not easy, so I'm looking for a hardware solution. Like the Netgear FVS114 VPN firewall/router. Easy to set up, but requires additional software on the clientside.
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8/28/2008 01:46 PM  
Posted By Marina Roos on 8/26/2008 04:01 PM
What load would vpn cause on a server?? And if the SBS has two nics, it doesn't make much sense to have the router do the vpn serving at all. If Garry still wants to be able to use vpn for his support (although I personally would never do that as it is way too slow) and have users vpn-ing into the network, he can choose to use another vpn protocol like ipsec for his needs, and let the users use the PPTP.
It's a preference I have.  SBS is already rather heavily burdened.  Any chance I get to "offload" a duty to another device...I'll take. 
Experience has shown a good hardware VPN appliance is more reliable, and higher in performance, than native Windows VPN.
A "busy" server is often pokey in VPN throughput.
It's one less service to have running on SBS.
It's one less "service" on a domain controller that I have to expose to the outside world (aka hackers...security worries)
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8/28/2008 03:23 PM  
Hi Brian,
 
And you can control the machines that are vpn-ing into the SBS network?? I find that those remote machines can be of a great security risk if they are not up to date with windows updates and are not running anti virus and anti malware. I only allow users to vpn into a network if I know their machines and I check them regularly personally.

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