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Subject: Migrating SBS 2003 to new hardware
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Joe Spenceley User is Offline
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8/29/2008 11:08 AM  
Hi,
 
We are following Technet article 747454 to migrate SBS 2003 to new hardware.  We are in the middle of this process and have had a couple of hitches.
 
1).  Mailboxes moved to new server can be viewed but cannot send/receive emails.
2).  Data migrated to new server is only accessible to the license count on the new server.
 
Considering this is meant to be a staged migration over five days I can't see how it can be completed this way without major disruption to the business. 
 
We currently have the new sbs server and old server on the domain together ready for migratiing data and roles.
 
First we moved mailboxes but hit on problem 1.  Due to time restraints we pushed onto migrating data shares but when users logged in, only the first 10 could access the shares on the new server.  The company has 35 cals but these are still assigned to the old server.  If I transfer them I fear that access to the old server will be similarly limited.
 
If you have used this migration before please advise as currently my only option seems to be to do the whole migration over night/weekend, rather than nicely staged over 5 days.
 
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Joe
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8/30/2008 03:24 PM  
Hi Joe,
 
Can you provide the link to the article you are using please? Depending on the differences in the hardware, the backup and restore method might be working for you.

Marina Roos Smallbizserver.Net AdministratorMission accomplished. We have joined the branch office to our SBS 2003 Headquarters and have the same user experience on the branch office as we have on our local  network at the Headquarters. Want to know how? Signup up for a subscription and get instant access to the article series 'How to add an additional Domain Controller from a remote office to the SBS domain'
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9/01/2008 05:29 PM  
Hi Marina,

Decided to go route one and started the migration on Sunday morning and completed it today. Do now believe that the procedure can work but not exactly in the order written out by MS. Found that it was necessary to transfer the CALs before migrating shared and exchange.

The link to the article is:

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc747454.aspx

Thanks,
Joe
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9/01/2008 05:43 PM  
Hi Joe,
 
Good. But a backup/restore could have done it in a few hours.

Marina Roos Smallbizserver.Net AdministratorMission accomplished. We have joined the branch office to our SBS 2003 Headquarters and have the same user experience on the branch office as we have on our local  network at the Headquarters. Want to know how? Signup up for a subscription and get instant access to the article series 'How to add an additional Domain Controller from a remote office to the SBS domain'
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9/01/2008 05:55 PM  
Hi Marina,
 
Very true, but I am quite happy with the way it all went.  The only problem I've had to deal with today is offline address books being out of sync in Outlook.  The old server wasn't the cleanest build ever and had inherited a few problems from the SBS 2000 Server it was upgraded from.
 
One question,  what can you do if a mailbox fails to move between stores and is too large to use exmerge to export to pst?  Fortunatly this didn't happen yesterday but I had about 20 mailboxes that I did have to use exmerge to migrate.
 
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9/01/2008 05:58 PM  
Hi Joe,
 
I have never done a move of mailboxes that way, so I can't really help you there. Exmerging only works good if the mailboxes are smaller than 2 Gb. If they are bigger, you will need to exmerge those mailboxes in parts. If you would have used the same domain name and the same server name, you could have forklifted the Exchange stores just like that.

Marina Roos Smallbizserver.Net AdministratorMission accomplished. We have joined the branch office to our SBS 2003 Headquarters and have the same user experience on the branch office as we have on our local  network at the Headquarters. Want to know how? Signup up for a subscription and get instant access to the article series 'How to add an additional Domain Controller from a remote office to the SBS domain'
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9/01/2008 10:56 PM  
"Found that it was necessary to transfer the CALs before migrating shared and exchange."

Hi:

I am in the same job and followed the interesting topic. I am in migrating the data from SBS 2003 of a computer To a SB 2003R of a new computer. Each server software were adquired with 5 calls each one and I am not interesting in transfer calls to another one, but remain old server as it is now to use it in emergency (let's say, power supply, cpu, failure). So, my questions are:
1.- In migrating as Joe did, included ( as I understood) transfering the cals to the new server is necessary? In this way the old server will no be able to access to calls again, right? Confirm please.
2.- The other question is: As Marina says, I can do a Backup instead of migrating, right? (confirm please). If it is, do you have any idea if it work with sbs 2003 and sbs2003 R?, and if the restore includes Public Folders and remaing clients with same desktop of old server?

I appreciate your responses.
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9/08/2008 10:24 PM  
Hi Edi,
 
As I have said before, you can use Backup/restore if the hardware isn't too different. Everything will stay the same. Or you can use Swing It.

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9/09/2008 05:20 PM  
I got caught out on this once. I had two dell servers, a Powedge 2600 and a 2800. The thing that broke it was the fact that the new server had a DVD/CD-RW drive instead of a CD-RW. I could find no way to get the optical drive working on the new machine. I even tried swapping the CD into the new server but the connector was different. I couldn't face a server without an optical drive so I reverted to the old machine. It doesn't sound such a big deal in these days of 32Gb pen drives!
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