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Subject: What is the reason for migrating?
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todd steven User is Offline
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12/31/2007 01:29 AM  
I am curious about why it is necessary to migrate insted of just cloning drive , place new drive in new system and rock and roll?  Oh yeah, I had to reactivate in 3 days ( only because of the number of cpu's, had it been to another single cpu no re-activation required - already tested that too.). Moved from PIII 1ghz to dual amd mp 2000 no problems. Moved another from Amd 2000 thoroughbred to dualcore dual xeon system and cloned onto scsi drives and went great. total time for a changeover is about 3-5 hours by the time you clone drives and reset isa to new nics. All my mail, my desktop, isa cache, everything is exactly as it was, and should something happen I still have the old drive to use in old system or new and just update the backups and I'm still golden. I'm a relative newbie with SBS but what is the real reason for wanting to migrate?
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12/31/2007 02:08 PM  
Todd -

Migrating does a couple of things for you. First, you cannot clone a drive and put it into a new system if the SBS OS was purchased as an OEM version. The OEM licensing specifically prohibits that action. Second, migration gives you an opportunity to do a clean install on the new box and get rid of any "gunk" that might have existed on the old box. this is especially important if migrating a box to new hardware that had been upgraded from a previous version (such as SBS 2000 to SBS 2003), or if you've taken over support for a box and you don't know the history on it. Migration gives you a chance to build the box the "right" way when you install the OS on the new hardware - you can set the partitions up correctly (most common mistake people make with setting up SBS the first time is not building a C: partition that's large enough), you can make sure only the software/settings you want on the box are on the box, etc.

That said, if you aren't tied to an OEM install on the old hardware, yes you can use a number of tools to essentially image the old system and drop it fairly intact to the new. I use Storage Craft's Shadow Protect for exactly this reason. their "Hardware independent Restore" feature allows you to restore the server to the new hardware and update the hardware drivers at the same time, so there's no need to hope that you can get the image to boot enough on the new box to get to a point where you can load drivers, etc.

So the biggie is really OEM. If you've got an OEM OS, you really have no other choice but to migrate to the new system, which must have a new license for the OS purchased with it.

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-Eriq

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12/31/2007 07:19 PM  
Ahh ok, I was curious because there are so many posts everywhere about how to migrate. I didn't contemplate the fact that anyone would even consider the notion of having a server os locked to the bios (I'm to cheap to buy several of the same thing and not reuse).  I've found for me, its easier to set video to generic and ide to standard then shutdown and clone using bios on gigabyte mb.
The migration technique always seemed to leave garbage and remnants of this and that behind (again still inexperienced here I guess)and theres always things in the future that you didn't anticipate as needing that you didn't move.
Thanks for the enlightenment.
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