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3/22/2008 12:12 PM  
I'm not used to working with MACs but a client has asked me a couple of specific questions that I hope others may be able to help me with. Basically they plan on using this machine primarily within a seconded team running offsite from the main SBS but sometimes they will need to bring the unit back into the fold. Now their already talking about bootcamp or parallels for a few items (like CAD, etc) and I'm quite okay about this but my main concern is about connectivity to domains as I think they're planning on having the machine joined to the seconded company. I know there are some programs out there that can allow an XP machine to join multiple domains but wasn't sure about their use in a bootcamp environment.
 
The user is also looking to use Entourage to access their email via Exchange but again I'm looking for some clarification if this can use the same methods as Outlook Anywhere to access and Exchange 2003 server? Their also asking about accessing to Exchange servers using this method but as far as I was aware you can only have one Exchange profile at a time (others may know more of course)...and again I wasn't sure of the support within Entourage.
 
Their also looking to use the VPN to access files remotely from the SBS periodically and I assume the MAC (it's a MacBook Pro their thinking about) can handle this.
 
So basically would it be possible to setup the Entourage client to access multiple Exchange servers (which I don't believe it can) and am I best setting up the Windows side to offer access to multiple domains within the bootcampt environment allowing them access to the necessary domain depending on their location?
 
Thanx for any advice...appreciated as always.
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3/26/2008 10:36 AM  
Well, I would say, use bootcamp and install XP or Vista on it and configure it for use with SBS. It can then act like a normal Windows computer in an SBS environment and you don't have to think about Mac configuration. I won't say it all can be done under Mac OS X, but configuring will be a lot harder for an inexperienced user.

Btw, just wondering why they did buy a Mac and want to use all kind of windows-only programs.
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3/26/2008 10:44 AM  
Hi Paul

The user is actually out on secondment to another company and they're a design house and basically use MACs, however, the home site (the one I support) is SBS and mainly Windows (there is a MAC there as well but it's only used for specific projects and does talk to the SBS but not to the extent this user needs as their mainly remote from the home server).

The user doesn't only want to use Windows only programs and this was why there is a specific question about Entourage and it's support (or lack of) for multiple Exchange servers. The user was thinking that they would use the MAC in the seconded team, use Entourage to receive their mail from the seconded teams Exchange Server but would also like to have another mailbox in there (as you do in Outlook) connected to the SBS Exchnage - and this was the part I wasn't sure of. Can Entourage connect to multiple Exchange servers? I know I've had problem in the past with getting Outlook to do this but haven;t worked with Entourage and was just looking for some heads up on this.

When they are back in the SBS area (the home site) they will use bootcamped XP to attach to the SBS box and thus Exchange, etc there...although I think they may ask once again to connect to multiple Exchnage servers using Outlook which I still believe isn't possible with Outlook 2007.

So if anyone has any insight on the use of Entourage with multiple Exchnage servers that would be great.
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4/08/2008 02:29 PM  
Sorry for the late reply.

Well you can connect to several exchange servers within entourage without any problems. Entourage isn't a mapi client but uses the same protocols as OWA (if I'm correct). Although that means you won't have full outlook functionality (but that's ok for me)

Just make sure you use https://FQDN/exchange in the field for exchange server in Entourage, so you won't have any certificate errors (exception is with ISA 2004, didn't found a solution for that one yet). Also make an entry in the dns with FQDN pointing to the internal IP-adress. 

With this setup the user should be able to access his mail from different exchange servers on both loactions without any problems. In fact he should be able to get  his mail from all over the world ;-)

Have the same setup on my laptop and 3 different SBS sites and works fine.

PJ
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4/08/2008 03:53 PM  
Hi Paul, thanx for the response. So you have one Entourage client connected to multiple Exchange servers at the same time meaning you can send/receive on any number of them at the same time from the different Exchange servers?
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4/09/2008 09:26 AM  
Exactly :-)

Just check "My account is on an Exchange server" when creating each new account.
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5/05/2008 02:18 PM  
Hi Paul

Sorry for the delay in getting back to you on this but just had the client appear last week (first time they've been back at the home office). You mention about adding an entry to the DNS to map the FQDN to the internal IP address. Should this be done on the SBS as opposed to the MAC itself?

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5/06/2008 11:04 AM  
Hi Steve,

Yes, I've always added it on the SBS itself.

Paul
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5/12/2008 01:52 PM  
Hi Paul

Once again thanx for your advice here but I'm having a slight problem implementing it. The client has Entourage setup to use the FQDN for the Exchange Server (http://server.company-name.co.uk) but when I goto DNS on the server and try to add a record to map the FQDN to the internal IP address it keepw wanting to add the internal domain name (companyname.local) to record.

I assume I'm doing something wrong here but what zone should I be adding the record to? What type of record should it be and should it be referring to the internal domain name as it is?

Thanx again
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5/12/2008 02:17 PM  
You should add the domain first (a new zone) and then you can add that Host A record. Here si an article about that:
 

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5/12/2008 03:17 PM  
Hi Mariette

So I should simply follow the second page of this article to setup the new zone? What would happen if the user tries to look at the external website (which isn't hosted internally)? The site would still have the domain companyname.co.uk (without the servername) but would this change mean that the DNS would attempt to load the website from the internal DNS, which obviously doesn't exist and indeed IIS wouldn;t be setup for it?

Being a bit dumb today I'm afraid.

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5/12/2008 03:30 PM  
For the external website you will create a Host A record 'www' that points to the IP address that site runs on. It is that simple

Mariëtte Knap Smallbizserver.Net AdministratorMission accomplished. We have joined the branch office to our SBS 2003 Headquarters and have the same user experience on the branch office as we have on our local  network at the Headquarters. Want to know how? Signup up for a subscription and get instant access to the article series 'How to add an additional Domain Controller from a remote office to the SBS domain'
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5/12/2008 06:20 PM  
Actually, there's a better way to do this, one that I just learned recently. Do the following:

1. Open DNS Management console (dnsmgmt.msc)
2. Right-click on Forward Lookup Zones and click New Zone.
3. In the first page of the wizard, click Next.
4. Make sure "Primary Zone" and "Store the zone in Active Directory" are selected and click Next.
5. Make sure "To all domain controllers" is selected and click Next.
6. For the zone name, enter the FULL FQDN of the server (i.e., server.companyname.co.uk), not just the public domain (companyname.co.uk) and click Next.
7. Select "Do not allow dynamic updates" and click Next.
8. Click Finish.
9. Right-click on the new zone (server.companyname.co.uk, for instance) and select New Host (A).
10. Leave the Name field blank, and enter the internal IP address for the SBS server in the IP Address field and click Add Host.
11. Click OK in the dialog that tells you the host was successfully created.
12. Click Done to close the Add Host dialog.

Once you're done, you have a record for the public DNS name of the server that internally will respond with the internal IP address, and you don't have to worry about duplicating any other public DNS records in the local DNS server any time a public address changes.

HTH...

-Eriq

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5/12/2008 06:22 PM  
Thanks Eriq!

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